To hear my interview with host Donna Seebo, click here, scroll all the way to near the bottom. My discussion of spies begins about 22 minutes in.
Click the check-box to the right of "#2484-2 May 6 2020 Wed-Jim Wright-Warriors for Peace" (do not highlight the program text otherwise an error message will pop up.)
Scroll down to bottom of the program-listing column after making your selection and click on streaming link ‘Play selected files’.
Program will start right up in your default media player.